{"id":280681,"date":"2025-12-26T05:06:23","date_gmt":"2025-12-26T05:06:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/halkweb.com.tr\/?p=280681"},"modified":"2025-12-26T05:06:23","modified_gmt":"2025-12-26T05:06:23","slug":"ciftyurekten-mit-report-output-either-turkey-will-solve-the-wolf-problem-or-it-will-fall-apart","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/halkweb.com.tr\/en\/ciftyurekten-mit-report-output-either-turkey-will-solve-the-wolf-problem-or-it-will-fall-apart\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00c7ifty\u00fcrek on MIT Report: \u201cEither Turkey will solve the Kurdish Question or it will fall apart!\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Before moving on to my interview with DEM Party Van MP Sinan \u00c7ifty\u00fcrek, let me state the following. As I have always stated, the fact that I include the views of the personalities I interview does not mean that I agree or disagree with their views. My duty is to provide unbiased and impartial information and to leave the discretion to the public.<\/p>\n<p>I asked Sinan \u00c7ifty\u00fcrek, who was born in Siverek, Urfa, is originally from Ad\u0131yaman, a member of parliament for Van and also a member of the Executive Committee of the Communist Party of Kurdistan, many questions about the agenda. He answered them sincerely. He also gave many headline-making statements. I would like to thank him for his time.<\/p>\n<h3>\u201cWe condemn the insults against Leyla Zana\u201d<\/h3>\n<p>DEM Party MP Sinan \u00c7ifty\u00fcrek stated that they condemned the insults and curses directed at Leyla Zana by Bursaspor fans, that this was an incapacity and a blind reaction, and that Bursa fans had a long history of this.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c7ifty\u00fcrek said, \u201cThere is nothing they haven't done to Amedspor before. Bursaspor president Faruk \u00c7elik stated that the incident was not true. Leyla Zana was hurt, Kurds, Turks and the whole public opinion supported Zana. If Bursaspor continues like this, they will be relegated. We want them to separate sports from politics.\u201d.<\/p>\n<h3>\u201cBarzani is one of the leaders of the Kurdish National Movement...\u201d<\/h3>\n<p>I asked about the events and reactions during Masoud Barzani's visit to Cizre.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c7ifty\u00fcrek said:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMr. Barzani's coming is a natural thing. He came from one part of Kurdistan to another part of Kurdistan, there is nothing as natural as that. We don't understand why they exaggerated the bodyguards he had with him. Turkey has been there for years with its tanks and artillery. When the consulate is there, they are traveling with Special Operations Teams. There is nothing more natural than a leader of the Kurdish National Movement traveling with national bodyguards. Barzani's messages are meaningful, he did not oppose the solution process, on the contrary he supported it.<\/p>\n<p>Especially the Good Party wanted to make this a domestic political issue. But there is no bread for them here. The Kurdish political movement has risen above such pressures and entered the regional and global equation. If there is to be peace, there is nothing as natural as Southern Kurdistan being a party.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3>MIT: Turkey Will Either Solve the Kurdish Problem or Fall Apart!<\/h3>\n<p>Sinan \u00c7ifty\u00fcrek reminded MHP leader Devletin Bah\u00e7eli's first outburst on the peace process and gave a very striking information about the MIT report.<\/p>\n<p>Reminding the attack of Hamas\u201c Izzeeddin Al Kassam Brigades on October 7, \u00c7ifty\u00fcrek stated that Netenyahu made a statement on October 8, one day after the attack, and then Devlet Bah\u00e7eli made a statement saying \u201dWe must strengthen our brotherhood from inside and outside\":<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe October 7 attack...Izzeeddin al-Qassam Brigades have been preparing for months. Israel has intelligence on every street of tiny Gaza. Israel can assassinate the Chief of Staff in the depths of Iran, but for some reason, Israel does not know about the attack carried out by the Al-Qassam Brigades for months and thousands of people! This is not possible... It was something planned, somehow they gave way. A day later, Netenyahu made a statement on standby. He said, \u2018This is our September 11th and a lot will change in the region\u2019. The first reaction came from Iran and the second reaction came from Mr. Devlet Bah\u00e7eli... Bah\u00e7eli said, \u2018We must strengthen our brotherhood from inside and outside\u2019. Who did he mean? He meant Kurds, but without mentioning Kurds...<\/p>\n<p>And why were those actions carried out?<br \/>\nThey needed a new equation in the Middle East. This was US and British planning.<br \/>\nBah\u00e7eli knows better than you or me that the Kurdish issue is in a critical situation.<br \/>\nBecause they have the MIT report dated November 2008 and prepared by MIT Undersecretary Emre Taner.<br \/>\nThe report calls for a peaceful democratic solution to the Kurdish issue.<\/p>\n<p>And it is said; <strong><em>\u2018Either the Kurdish issue will be solved or Turkey will fall apart.\u2019<\/em> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I am not saying this, MIT is saying this.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cUpon my question \u201dIs there a bargain between \u0130mral\u0131, DEM and the government or not?\u201c, \u00c7ifty\u00fcrek stated that the West and the US do not have a change of borders on their agenda at the moment; \u2019If they did, they would not have opposed the \u201cIndependence Referendum\u2018 in Iraqi Kurdistan in 2011. More precisely, they did not oppose it, they said \u2019it is not the time'. The plan of the US and European states is not to change the borders, but to autonomize the four parts of Kurdistan.<\/p>\n<p>Turkey's fear is that \u2018today the Kurds will become autonomous, I will have to take a step\u2019, there is no way out... They say \u2018OK, I will give them autonomy, no problem\u2019, but they are calculating twenty years from now. They are worried that \u2018today the global equation gives way to the autonomy of parts of Kurdistan, what if tomorrow it gives way to their independence\u2019.<br \/>\n\u2018There is the question, \u2019What if a Kurdish person like Bismarck comes along and tries to unite the four parts where Kurds live?.<br \/>\nThat's why Bah\u00e7eli and Turkey wanted to solve this problem as soon as possible, they didn't want anyone to interfere. That was the reason for Bah\u00e7eli's call to \u00d6calan...<br \/>\n\u00d6calan said \u2018we are repeating ourselves\u2019. He is right.<br \/>\nBut was it only the PKK repeating itself? Wasn't the state also repeating itself? Didn't Bah\u00e7eli also say, \u2018we tried every way and it didn't work\u2019?\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-280682\" src=\"https:\/\/halkweb.com.tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/a6557d51-936e-464a-b610-7832f7a2876d.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1600\" height=\"1170\" srcset=\"https:\/\/halkweb.com.tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/a6557d51-936e-464a-b610-7832f7a2876d.jpg 1600w, https:\/\/halkweb.com.tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/a6557d51-936e-464a-b610-7832f7a2876d-300x219.jpg 300w, https:\/\/halkweb.com.tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/a6557d51-936e-464a-b610-7832f7a2876d-696x509.jpg 696w, https:\/\/halkweb.com.tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/a6557d51-936e-464a-b610-7832f7a2876d-1068x781.jpg 1068w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\" \/><\/p>\n<h3>\u201cDEM Party Will Insist on Status\u201d<\/h3>\n<p>Although the government, \u00d6calan and the DEM Party say \u2018there is no negotiation\u2019, Sinan \u00c7ifty\u00fcrek believes that the DEM Party will insist on status.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c7ifty\u00fcrek said, \u201c\u00d6calan said that we don't want autonomy, federation and culturalist demands either. But it is obvious that the PKK and the DEM community will insist on a status, if they didn't, they would have taken a step forward until today. But both sides have their minds on Rojava (North of Syria), Rojava's status has been recognized as it is. Turkey also accepts this. They opened the door to civil administration and administrative autonomy, but they said there should not be a separate army and defense like Iraqi Kurdistan. But now the solution process is tied to that. Rojava is also the reason why the parliamentary commission is constantly reset and bills are not passed. They say; \u2018let the problem there be solved and then we can take steps.\u2019 That is where the Kurdish politics and the minds of Kurdish politics are...\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c7ifty\u00fcrek said, \u201cThe AK Party, MHP and the \u0130yi Party are making it a condition that wherever the Kurds have armed forces in the Middle East, they must give them up. So that is what they want. There is no benefit in enacting a law similar to the law enacted after the Sheikh Sait rebellion. For example, they say \u2018those who have committed crimes\u2019. When you say this, no one will come and surrender. \u2018You are a criminal, come and surrender, then we will put sensors on your feet for a few years...\u2019<\/p>\n<p>If the state mind does not get out of the idea of terrorism, criminals, etc. in the Kurdish issue, if it does not say I have to approach this politically, the Kurdish issue cannot be solved. At the moment, the solution of the Kurdish issue is not on the agenda, they are dealing with the consequences of the Kurdish issue. They are not taking a radical, courageous, timid approach to the elimination of the consequences.\u201d.<\/p>\n<h3>\u201cThe peace process is not about the solution of the Kurdish issue, but about the elimination of the consequences of the Kurdish issue...\u201d<\/h3>\n<p>On the question of how do you evaluate Bese Hozat's statement \u201cwe don't want amnesty\u201d, Sinan \u00c7ifty\u00fcrek stated the following:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe Kurdish issue has been going on for one hundred and seventy years. It has been going on since M\u00eer Bedirhan. Turkey says \u2018I am an Ottoman legacy\u2019, if it is an Ottoman legacy, this problem has existed for a hundred and seventy years. The state still does not say it will solve the Kurdish issue, the official discourse still says there is a terrorist issue. This peace process is not about solving the Kurdish issue, it is about eliminating the consequences of the Kurdish issue.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3>\u201cSDF must not disarm\u201d<\/h3>\n<p>\u201cRegarding my question \u201dShould the SDF disarm?\", \u00c7ifty\u00fcrek made the following observations:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf the Kurds lay down their arms, they will face massacres again. The state perceives the Kurds outside the borders as a threat, which is right from its point of view because the Kurdish issue is always a threat to them. This is a matter of how the Turkish Republic views the Kurds.<br \/>\nTurkey calls itself a strategic ally even when it meets with states in Africa, why aren't the Kurds a strategic ally? Turkey can be effective in the Middle East if it recognizes the Kurds and accepts their achievements and grows together, not by riding on their backs.<\/p>\n<p>Why does he want the SDF to disarm? Because he does not accept the word Kurdish. Inside, there is still no word Kurdish in the reports of the commissions. Because they are afraid that it will come back...<br \/>\nTurkish people came from the Caucasus. Why do the people of Bursa show such racist attitudes? Because they are immigrants... S\u00fcleyman Demirel used to say, \u2018It is immigrants, not Turks, who are Turkists\u2019.<br \/>\nPeople from Central Asia and the Caucasus are more racist.<\/p>\n<p>Turkey must stop seeing the Kurds as a threat. They wanted to advance by riding on the backs of the Kurds, but they failed. There is no state in Syria, there is a gang system. Is it a state established by HTS? It takes half of the country to elections and half not. Is such a thing possible? There is no system where Kurds can feel safe. Kurds have to take their own security. It is not right for the SDF to lay down arms. The day the SDF disarms, the same thing that happened to the Alawite people will happen to the Kurds. That is why it is never, ever right for the SDF to lay down arms.<\/p>\n<p>Who wants the Kurds to lay down their arms? The Arabs with twenty-two states and twenty-two national armies... The Turks with seven states and seven national armies. Let the fifty million Kurds have autonomy. Let them have a defense force.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3>\u201cWhat do I understand from this solution process if the Kurdish will not have a language, will not have a presence in the Constitution?\u201d<\/h3>\n<p>DEM Deputy Sinan \u00c7ifty\u00fcrek said that they object to the article in the Constitution stating that \u201cEveryone who belongs to the State of the Republic of Turkey is a Turk\u201d and that this article should be changed.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c7ifty\u00fcrek summarized: \u201cIf Article 66 of the Constitution will not be changed, if everyone bound by citizenship is a Turk, if Article 42, education in mother tongue, mother tongue other than Turkish and mother tongue will not be official, then all these discussions are futile. What are you discussing?<br \/>\nIf the Kurdish will not have a language and will not have a presence in the Constitution, what do I understand from this solution process? A solution cannot be produced without changing these two articles.<\/p>\n<p>If Turkishness is not an ethnic identity but a supreme identity and includes everyone, then the statement that everyone who belongs to the Republic of Turkey is a Turk is obviously based on an ethnic identity. Let's say it is a cultural identity, why do you recognize the Turks in Central Asia and see them as brothers and sisters, then why don't you see the Kurds in the Kurdistan Federal State (Northern Iraqi Kurdistan) as brothers and sisters? Why did you oppose the independence referendum? The root of these are lies.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3>\u201cDemirta\u015f's release depends entirely on domestic politics, not on the law\u201d<\/h3>\n<p>\u201cUpon my question \u201dWhy is Demirta\u015f not being released?\" \u00c7ifty\u00fcrek made the following striking observations.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe bottom line about Demirta\u015f is that HDP members are the ones who died and HDP members are the ones on trial. If 52 people died, 37 of them were HDP members. Did HDP members kill HDP members? Moreover, HDP members are also inside. They are the ones who died and they are the ones on trial.<\/p>\n<p>Demirta\u015f is actually in prison for two reasons, his \u2018we will not make you president\u2019 speech. Also, if the HDP had made a move when the Ak Parti was in the minority in forming a government, it would have become a ruling partner with the Ak Parti instead of the MHP. I think it would have been right too. When that didn't happen, Erdo\u011fan threw bridges and they still maintain that attitude.<\/p>\n<p>They are also worried that if Demirta\u015f is released, there will be a revival in domestic politics. Demirta\u015f's release depends entirely on domestic politics, not on the law. If there was a law, Demirta\u015f should not be in jail.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Especially the Iyi Parti and some CHP nationalists continue to claim that the \u201cpeace process\u201d is a continuation of the BOP, what do you think?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The reading is fundamentally wrong. The BOP project is long gone. America is intervening directly in the Middle East. There is America in Syria. There is Saudi Arabia in the economy. To see the resolution process as a continuation of the BOP is preposterous. Bah\u00e7eli himself started this process. The PKK front was already ready for it. \u00d6calan has been in favor of laying down arms since the 1990s. The BOP was something else, it was a project covering North Africa. The Arab Spring had something to do with it, but they realized that it burned their hands. Finally, they saw the Ikhwani Muslim and gave up...<\/p>\n<h3>\u201cIran and Turkey are prisons of beliefs and peoples\u201d<\/h3>\n<p>The non-state Kurds, the Kurdistan Federal Structure (Northern Iraqi Kurdistan) is a garden of peoples and beliefs... Although they are not a state, they have made a garden of peoples and beliefs. Turkey's fear is that the Kurds are coming with new references. It is a dynamic society, a society of 60 million people.<\/p>\n<p>Kurds should exist as a nation in the Constitution.<br \/>\nTwo, there should be education in mother tongue.<br \/>\nKurds must have a status in Turkey. Not without a status.<br \/>\nWhen I say status, I am talking about a federative system of administrative autonomy. Half the world is already governed by a federal system.<br \/>\nThe federal system does not lead to disintegration, on the contrary, it leads to a unifying life. Yes to living together, but on equal terms... Atat\u00fcrk did it before, but he didn't continue.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3>\u201cPeople with Statutory Decrees Suffered Great Persecution\u201d<\/h3>\n<p>DEM Deputy \u00c7ifty\u00fcrek also said the following about the people with emergency decrees:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAs the Kurdistan Democratic Party, we say that this is an oppression, a great social destruction, a great social terror. This is such a social terror that you don't just fire people, you tell them that they can't work in any insured job. Is there a greater social terror than this? DEM has repeatedly emphasized this and made proposals. This must be eliminated as soon as possible.\u201d<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cWhat do I understand from this solution process if the Kurdish will not have a language, will not have a presence in the Constitution?\u201d<\/p>","protected":false},"author":22,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[286],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-280681","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-yazarlar"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/halkweb.com.tr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/280681","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/halkweb.com.tr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/halkweb.com.tr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/halkweb.com.tr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/22"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/halkweb.com.tr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=280681"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/halkweb.com.tr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/280681\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":280684,"href":"https:\/\/halkweb.com.tr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/280681\/revisions\/280684"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/halkweb.com.tr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=280681"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/halkweb.com.tr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=280681"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/halkweb.com.tr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=280681"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}